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 Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 07:00 pm
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FISH ASSASSIN
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Mana: 
Hi all Sealiners.

Happy Easter to you all.

As I work in retail and can forget to go fishing over Easter I was thinking: what do you guys use for catching shad?

I have caught plenty on CID Couta Spoons and my trusty (original with microwave guides) Amia. But I have only been moderately successful with bait.

I was thinking +- 11foot 3 to 4 ounce rod. I will pair it with a Stradic 5000 if that is suitable. Suggestions? +-R2k. This rod Will be used exclusively for bait fishing shad, and if appropriate other small edibles.

Thanks guys

PS. Don't tell my wife as she is already aware of my other rod that Tackle-holic is going to pimp...

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 Posted: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 08:43 pm
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Ben REINERS
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Hi there.....

Yes, a 11' rod is good, but fishing for edibles from shore with both bait & lure, I would opt for a 12-12'6 rod paired with a grinder size 6000.

The 12' range rod will allow you more distance with bait to target a variety of edibles ie. shad, kob, grunter, GT, garricg, snoek, pompanos, etc.
Yes, distance does not always equate to Fish, but you will find days you need distance to reach sandbank drop offs, gullies or the "colour" line, or working water where fish feeds.
I can remember how many trips to St Lucia where the size grunters would be out deep. Many anglers would cast far short & end up looking rather sad at the end of the day.....or end up buying cheap & longer combo outfits at Dolphin supermarket just to catch a few grunts.

You will be happy with a 11', but will kick yrself the days you cant reach your target areas or get picked up by a beast & you wish you had a slightly heavier outfit.

The versatile part of a 12' is, it can be used for spinning as well, & will have enough backbone to fight & land large GT's should you get picked up by one. The right 12' will give you ample distance depending on your re size & line diameter which will be another factor in yr favor.

Yes, the longer & heavier the rod, then it means you should use heavier lures or sinkers with your bait. But not to despair.....the 12' is not a monster & some guys prefer spinning a whole day with a 12' rod.

The day that the surf is crappy,sidewash, little wind etc you will find the extra length & heavier outfit more suiting than the 11'.

You will have as much fun on yr 12' as with the 11' but with more advantages.
Should you get to a stage when you fo only spinning with lures, then opt for the 11' which is a great rod for that facet.

I carry a 10' for some lighter lures, a 11' for heavier lures & distance ,& backbone.
Then my 14+ always goes with for bait fishing.

I stopped spinning with my 14' rod round about 2015.
That is a killer on the arms, & shoulders & you gotta rest to recuperate in between sessions.

If you ever opt for a 12' rod, get yrself a spare spool for yr reel, to fill one with mono (bait fishing) & the spare spool with braid for lure fishing.

The bait guys catch record wise ito quantity much more fish than the lure okes, but on a good day you can have lotsa fun with lures & can cover larger areas of water in little time while your bait is lying dormant at 1 spot for minutes on end & for no bite.

Your tackle has to be versatile.

Thats my experience.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 09:19 am
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Mana: 
Thanks for the detailed reply Ben. Makes absolute sense. 12 foot it is then. Strange enough I don't have a 12 foot rod at all...

Any suggestions on which rod?

Thanks

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 Posted: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 08:26 pm
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Ben REINERS
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I am no fundi on rod brands, & don't like to go into the finest of specs & details as the fundis do, but know enough to guide you to Assassin, Shimano, Daiwa's range of spinning rods & Loomis & Franklin of which the latter has a fantastic range in spinning rods in the Archipelago range.

I personally invested in an older 10' for lighter spinning rod & had it a bit altered to my liking by Tackle-Holic.
And price-wize is very good vs the quality you get.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 14th, 2021 12:00 pm
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Mana: 
Hi Fish. Maybe this is a bit late but you might consider the DAIWA BG power spin. I live on the South Coast and am in a position to catch lots of shad. And bronze bream. Last few years my rod for both is THE BG 10'6" 30 - 70g. I use an Okuma Azores 40 for bronzies and shad bait and a Shimano Sahara 5000 for spinning. This is a very versatile rod which easily throws a 3oz sinker and small bait despite it's rating. Very sensitive but solid on the hookup. My suggestion is have a check at this rod especially the slightly heavier model 50 - 110g. Both weights come in 10'6" and 11'6". Your reel should be fine, just take it along. The rod is also great for cob on paddle tails by the way. As I said, just a consideration. But don't take the stated casting weights too seriously.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 14th, 2021 12:42 pm
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Thanks for the suggestion. Will have a look at the BG. Thanks

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Hi

Also have a look at the 12ft XH Loomis Archipelago 1.5- 4oz.

Cheers

Sting Ray

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