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 Posted: Fri Nov 27th, 2020 09:40 am
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DJP
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You don't need a Stella and Horizon to have fun fishing... check this out, and old Loomis and Franklin Rod, mono line and KP reel... haven't had this much fun catching fish in a long time, although there where some moments I wished I had my casting glove with me.

For the older gents, there was a video, like proper cassette video, where the legendary Charles Norman and some friends went fishing in Moz. The swam a springer on a KP to catch a shark, think it was a blacktip, since I saw that video I always wanted to catch something proper on the KP. Now I have caught a few galleys sharks on it but these hounds are just something special!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLj8jZmJrU&t=79s

Attachment: Bringing the KP back to Cape Town.jpg (Downloaded 283 times)

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 Posted: Fri Nov 27th, 2020 10:13 am
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Ben REINERS
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The KP remains a legend type fishing reel.
I have 21 original KP's & 1 original Scarborough reel my parents bought me back in the day in 1974 for my birthday. I was 11_seal1_

I still use them.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 28th, 2020 04:14 am
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To me thats what sport fishing is all about, you vs nature. These hounds are incredibly strong so fighting them on such direct tackle is really next level!

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 Posted: Sat Nov 28th, 2020 07:41 am
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Very cool!!!

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 Posted: Sat Nov 28th, 2020 11:27 am
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Excellent vid. Thanks for sharing _seal1_

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 Posted: Sun Nov 29th, 2020 02:08 pm
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That looks like so much fun!!!
Please tell me what line you use and where you bought it and what trace you use. Do you need a softer action rod?

How hard is the casting and does it cast far?

How many birds nests if any did you get learning to cast?

What is the capacity of the reel?

Well done for doing this, I'll be following your example!!!

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 Posted: Sun Nov 29th, 2020 07:10 pm
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Rod used is a 2 piece Loomis & Franklin 13ft rated 3-5oz. It’s an old rod like at least 12 years old and not hmg so it’s fairly soft but you can pull plenty on it. In new rod terms it similar to an Assassin Bluefish but I’m sure L&F still makes similar rods which will be cheaper.
It’s a 6inch delux KP, on their website it’s priced at R380, how good is that for a reel?! IMO ask for the one with the bigger handle knobs, it just reels much easier especially when wet. The one in the video is the normal one, I broke my previous 6inch KP by practice casting with a rod which had a cheap reel seat. The reel seat broke on the cast which sent the reel flying off. There is a lot of pressure on the reel seat when casting a heavy sinker so make sure you have a decent one and that the reel is fastened properly.
Line I used here is 0.60 doubleXX rainbow, I fish without a leader so the mainline it pretty thick. This also helps for a beginner because it’s easier to manage especially when the line hops off the spool on the reel arm side.
When I first used a KP about 10 years ago I started casting in a dam and on a field, it takes some practice but I could cast about 100m with a 6oz sinker. I have used lighter lines which increase your distance but for my application the 0.60mm works fine. On the reefs I cast between 15-40m which is plenty, but at most spots we swim out about 50-100m. If you fish from the rocks you should be able to get to 60m with bait, probably more if you have the casting down and build neat baits.
I’m not sure how much line I have on but probably around 200m 0.60mm mono and 200m braid backing. The backing I just put on to fill the spool and to protect the reel because winding on the mono to tight without backing may buckle the spool... or so I was told.
I use a wide arc overhead cast and it’s really just about getting the release point correct. If you are right handed you will put your left hand below the reel with your index finger on the side of the spool, this is also the finger that will control the spool during the cast, like breaking a multiplier with your thumb but on the side. Then your right hand is placed at the top in a normal relaxed position... I’ll have to do a video on this sometime. Long story short it’s not that difficult to cast but it does takes some practice and you will get overwinds. In the beginning try to cast only short distances and use a bit heavier sinker and slow action. Once you get the hang of it you can use a lighter sinker and put more effort into it. Put a bit if water on the spool before you cast it makes braking / feathering the spool easier, you will have to give it little dabs with your index finger to slow it down during the cast and then stop the spool just before the bait hits the water.

The rig I use a is a normal fixed trace with 0.8mm hook snoot a 1/0 Mustad big gun hook, 0,4mm sinker snoot, power swivel, and 3oz sinker. I was actually targeting kob, of which I got 11 but not was size so all swimming again.

To control the line whilst fishing or transporting the reel I use a piece of car inner tube, on my right hand wrist in the video, still old red tube. It’s cut about an inch wide and fits over the spool so just helps the line stay on when there is no tension on the line.

Give it a shot, master the KP and some average fish will become you best catches. Just watch out for you fingers when you hook a bid one and get a glove to brake the spool during he fight.

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 Posted: Sun Nov 29th, 2020 07:33 pm
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This is great info, I have to wait long periods between chances to fish and learning to cast a KP will fill that time productively.

Your info is really super helpful thank you.

Please tell me where you bought the reel?

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 Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 04:51 am
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I got mine from Bilimoria in East London, but you can buy it from them directly at http://www.kpreels.co.za and get exactly what you want.
Otherwise Basilmanning, Ganisangling etc. all stock them.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 07:15 am
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Man That looks like proper fun.

Thanks for sharing

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 Posted: Mon Nov 30th, 2020 12:34 pm
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Jo Dirk! Dit lyk lekker!!!

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Baie baie lekker! Ek het nou vis my so bederfie bestel van KP af so sal sien as dit hier aankom... nooit genoeg speel goed nie :-)

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Ja lekker...looks like a big jol..we could start dipping for spotties soon LOL..

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